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Post by moteGP on Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:29 pm

So if given the chance to modify your beloved Amore, ano unahin nyo?

Bigger engine displacement or Kalkal pang gilid? (kung adik ka pareho?)

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Post by bandit250 on Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:31 pm

pangilid muna uunahin ko.

sayang pa yun stock engine hindi ko pa nalalaspag...

at walang pera para pagsabayin ang dalawa...hehhee
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Post by moteGP on Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:34 pm

Same tayo iniisip, since mag improve naman performance pag na modify pang gilid at naumpisahan ko na din, yan din uunahin. Ung ibang members, what do you think? albino

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Post by ajg on Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:52 pm

Wala pa po akong pinapaltan o ginagalaw sa engine ko and panggilid, pero base sa mga pinagkakatiwalaan kong mga mekaniko at shop owners, if your planning to go bore-up, then go.. kahit stock panggilid lang ok na raw..

Yun lang mga sir (sana makatulong).. hehe Razz
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Post by joeyboy on Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:44 pm

sa tingin ko panggilid din muna since stock engine pa sayang eh ehehe! tsaka yun na plano natin db? hehehe

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Post by moteGP on Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:42 pm

Sir ajg, since nka v8 ka na and using stock engine, nakatulong ba ito sa performance sa scoot? gaano po ba kalaki pagbabago? OT lang kasi papakalkal na kami ng pipe sa 28th (eh kasama ka dun) kasama na panggilid. scratch

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Post by ajg on Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:30 pm

Sir compared sa stock pipe mas malakas hatak nya compared sa dati kasi mas nakakahinga yung engine.. Fuel consumption same din naman..

Hindi po ako magaling sa modifications lalo na kapag engine na pinaguusapan lagi lang ako base sa mga tropa na nagawa nang magpalit ng panggilid or magBore-up.. They said na kung arangkada hanap nyo at less gas consumption- Bore-up na, downside lang is nawawalan ng dulo, thats the time na gagalawin nyo panggilid to compensate the bore-up you made..

Yun lang yung mga tips na binibigay nila sa akin..
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Post by moteGP on Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:43 pm

Ah ok, kasi di ko mag gets concept of increasing ung displacement to save gas....
Bigger displacement bigger gas consumption pero sa dami nang nakausap ko even mechanics, yan din sinasabi...
on the other side it takes less effort for the engine para paandarin ung scoot dahil tumaas na ung power to weight ratio...
Ano ba talaga kuya.... 2.2k ung 58.5 set, LHK. 2.4k ung pipe, drive face at kalkal pulley Question

Saan ako? Naguguluhan ako? No

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Post by ajg on Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:05 pm

Like what ive said sir im not the best person to ask, pero kung majority ng mga nakakausap nyo ganun sinasabi, maybe totoo nga..

Basta sir, any modifications you may want to do in your beloved Amore, nandito lang ako to support you.. hehe
(ganun talaga, isang hamak na janitor lang po ako, hindi makasabay sa pagMods, moral support nalang.hehe)
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Post by bandit250 on Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:29 pm

ajg wrote:Like what ive said sir im not the best person to ask, pero kung majority ng mga nakakausap nyo ganun sinasabi, maybe totoo nga..

Basta sir, any modifications you may want to do in your beloved Amore, nandito lang ako to support you.. hehe
(ganun talaga, isang hamak na janitor lang po ako, hindi makasabay sa pagMods, moral support nalang.hehe)

sir ajg kahit ano ka pa ok lang.. masmaganda nga kung huli kana magmods sa MC para malaman mo kung ok ba yun mods na ginawa sa amin.... Laughing

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Post by moteGP on Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:28 pm

Hehe, dun ako kina Execom kanina although nagmamadali ako, muntik na magkamali ung nagtitinda ng driveface, NCY Php650.00 daw, pakakabit ko na sana biglang nag alangan, antayin daw store owner........ bad ako kasi sabi ko sa sarili ko sayang Twisted Evil

Pero nakakita ako ng aftermarket na shocks pang MIO, Php1.5k lang.
Sabi ko pakalkal muna ako ng pipe.

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Post by joeyboy on Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:56 pm

haha sarap mag papogi ng mio sir moteGP! yan din plano ko tsaka adjustable brake lever tsaka shocks eh tigas ng shocks natin hehe

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Post by moteGP on Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:54 am

@joeyboy
Yan yung isa sa mga reason kaya ako nag extend ng scoot, masyado sya matagtag lalo na pag hi-speed na, problem would be ung regular driving within the subdivision, ung cornering mahirap lang sa umpisa pero sa katagalan para na siyang di naka extend, ganda na nag grip sya sa hi-speed, hoping to improve performance sa pag upgrade or kalkal ng gilid. Smile

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Post by moteGP on Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:41 am

So kinalkal na ung pulley at na shave na driveface ko....bumalik na ung dulo ng scoot, sabi ni Dale ung clutch spring and clutch bell after daw mag bore-up.

Gastos na naman.

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Post by bensiton on Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:57 pm

I'll go first sa CVT trans. mura lng kasi, at maya na ang engine pag racing mode..hehe
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Post by moteGP on Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:03 pm

Para maliwanagan ang lahat kung ano ung saysay ng pinag-gagawa namin sa scoot namin....
Eto po ung magandang explanation....ayon sa libro!

This is how the transmission looks when the engine is running at low RPMs.


Eto naman po siya pag HI-Speed na!


Now as the RPM’s of the motor increase, the centrifugal force pushes the roller weights outward (number 1 in picture).

The roller weights push out and onto the angle plates surface. This causes the rear half of the pulley to move toward the front half of the pulley (number 2 in picture).

When the rear half of the pulley pushes to the front pulley, it forces the belt out to a higher gear ratio (number 3 in picture).

This is the basic operation of the front pulley. Faster engine speeds cause the belt to go outward.

So ang gagawin ng kalkal ay ang pagtanggal or pagdagdag ng play ng bola. The more na umaakyat ung bola, the more na tataas ung belt therefore ung gear ratio niya din ay tataas.
Dapat talaga kung pakalkal mo ung pulley dapat pa shave mo din driveface para magcompliment sila sa isa't-isa.

Tama po ba mga sir?

Good PM MAO!

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Post by bandit250 on Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:39 pm

moteGP wrote:Para maliwanagan ang lahat kung ano ung saysay ng pinag-gagawa namin sa scoot namin....
Eto po ung magandang explanation....ayon sa libro!

This is how the transmission looks when the engine is running at low RPMs.


Eto naman po siya pag HI-Speed na!


Now as the RPM’s of the motor increase, the centrifugal force pushes the roller weights outward (number 1 in picture).

The roller weights push out and onto the angle plates surface. This causes the rear half of the pulley to move toward the front half of the pulley (number 2 in picture).

When the rear half of the pulley pushes to the front pulley, it forces the belt out to a higher gear ratio (number 3 in picture).

This is the basic operation of the front pulley. Faster engine speeds cause the belt to go outward.

So ang gagawin ng kalkal ay ang pagtanggal or pagdagdag ng play ng bola. The more na umaakyat ung bola, the more na tataas ung belt therefore ung gear ratio niya din ay tataas.
Dapat talaga kung pakalkal mo ung pulley dapat pa shave mo din driveface para magcompliment sila sa isa't-isa.

Tama po ba mga sir?

Good PM MAO!

galing naman ni sir motegp...

salamat po sir sa info.....

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Post by dhogie on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:33 pm

WAtch mode lang ako dito since balak ko pa lang pa upgrade...makina ko ay wala pang karanasan na nabiyak.hehehe....
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